Jay's Dual Tech system

HeroicJay · 2015-10-27T15:13:35+0900

THIS PLUGIN IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE IN THIS FORUM A dual tech allows two characters to join forces and combine their skills into one more powerful skill. However, the use of one requires you to spend the cost of both characters' composite skills, so it can get quite MP (or TP) costly! To use it, just enter the following into the Note box of any skill: You can add more actors (up to ten, though you'll need an extra plugin to use more than four in battle, of course) by just listing them after Actor2's details and before HitRate. Make sure the parameters (other than HitRate, if you use it) always come in pairs; one for the actor ID and one for the skill. The ActorIDs should be their database ID numbers; the Skills can either be skill names or ID numbers. So: will work, so long as actor #1 learns Fire and actor #2 learns Ice. "HitRate" is optional, and accepts the following values: "user" - Uses the hit rate for the actor that used the skill. "first" or "actor1" - Uses the hit rate for the actor defined by Actor1ID. "second" or "actor2" - Uses the hit rate for the actor defined by Actor2ID. (You can go up to actor10, but only "first" and "second" are defined by written-out ordinal numbers.) "highest" - Between all actors, select the highest hit rate. "lowest" - Between all actors, select the lowest hit rate. NOTE: I have disabled the "sum" HitRate, since it doesn't really make a lot of sense even for two characters, and certainly not for more than that. If you don't set a HitRate, the hit rate will be the same as if you set it to "user". Magical and Certain Hit skills ignore hit rates anyway, so you may as well not bother with HitRate for those. For the damage formulae of dual and triple tech skills, you may refer to the actors with "c", "d", etc., with "c" being the first actor defined in the tag, "d" the second, and so on up to "l" (lowercase L). "a" still works for the one who initiated the skill, and "b" is, as always, the target. THINGS TO NOTE: For the time being, this dualtech script only uses the turn of one character (in fact, both associated characters can use the dualtech skill in the same turn, if they both can and you can afford the cost!) As dualtechs are (at least at present) tied to specific actors, you'll have to make new versions for different pairings, even if they know the same skills. Each party member has to learn the dualtech ability on their own. So if you want both party members calling it, teach both of them the dualtech skill. If you want one character to always initiate it, give it only to that one. However, the dualtech will only appear when the composite spells are learned and both characters are in the party, so feel free to teach every single one at level 1 if you don't want to have special unlock conditions for them. If you want to break the dependency of a dualtech on another tech, set it as a component to itself. This can be done for either or both of the actors defined in the skill. If you do this, the actor will use any MP or TP costs (or any other costs from plugins) associated with the dualtech skill in the database. Otherwise, the actor will ignore those costs and only spend the cost of the component skill. You can also teach the skill to a character not defined in the tag, which will (for that actor alone) treat the user as a part of the tech, and the user's "component" will be the tech itself. If you do this, however, it is not recommended to define the tech as a component for itself for any other actor. It lists the actors' names in the skill cost, which can get really, really unwieldy. To combat this, if you define Game_Actor.icon() to return icon IDs for each actor, you'll get icons instead. Down below, I have a small snippet of code that can do this for you (but there are other, more flexible ways to do it.) Or you can use the cycle parameters, mentioned below. This script is now fully compatible with Yanfly's SkillCore 1.01 and SkillCooldowns 1.02a! For compatibility purposes, please put this plugin below all plugins that modify skill cost or skill cost display in any fashion (plugins that do this that I'm aware of are the two aforementioned Yanfly plugins and Unconnected42's Ammunition plugin.) If you are using skill costs that come from a universal resource pool (in other words, something the entire party can access like money or items, not something individual like HP, MP, or TP) it is heavily recommended that you do not give the same type of cost to multiple actors for the same dualtech! (For instance, it is not recommended that Actor 1 uses a skill that uses up one Potion and Actor 2 uses a skill that uses up two Potions. If you have exactly two Potions, the plugin will actually let you use the skill and wind up with negative one Potions.) If the cost for each actor comes from a different pool (like A…

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Vapor0907

#282 Aug 26, 2019, 03:44 AM Source

Yeah both the skills necessary are valid skills. And this is the only deultech the actor’s learned.
HeroicJay

#283 Aug 26, 2019, 03:57 AM Source

I'm continuing this in a private conversation. I only have one idea what might have caused it at this point - and it's a long shot.
Vapor0907

#284 Aug 26, 2019, 04:03 AM Source

Worked like a charm!

Thank you so much, and I’m sorry for taking up so much of your time.
Crxstxan

#285 Dec 22, 2019, 09:13 PM Source

First, sorry for my bad english, I speak Spanish.
When a battle ends before executing the combined technique in the next battle, the character waits forever unless another character makes a combined technique that includes that actor.
Another mistake I have is that sometimes a random error comes out that takes me out of the game and only happens with your plugin but I don't understand why it happens.
Thanks in advance.
HeroicJay

#286 Dec 22, 2019, 11:56 PM Source

Please provide some more information. What battle system are you using? Which version of the plugin do you have?
Krindlekrist

#287 Dec 23, 2019, 01:20 AM Source

As keen as I would be to use this system, I imagine this isn't compatible with OTB battle system by Olivia?
HeroicJay

#288 Dec 23, 2019, 03:08 AM Source

OTB?

Anyway, it should be compatible with ALL battle systems that use the same skill system as the default, though I can't vouch for every single one. However, linked turns are only compatible with SOME battle systems, all of them by Yanfly - linked turns cannot even be used by the default battle system without a Yanfly plugin to alter its behavior. (I used to have a plugin patch that allowed linked turns with Ellye's ATB system, but even if I knew where it was it's incredibly out of date.)
Crxstxan

#289 Jan 9, 2020, 10:01 PM Source

use yep_battleenginecore and yep_battlesysatb in its latest versions and jay_dualtechs 3.1.2 place your plugin as low as possible.
the first mistake is:

107/5000

The bar as I said before is waiting until someone does another technique combined with that character.
From the second error I don't have a photo because it happens randomly.
PD: I use a lot of plugins but yours is the only one that gives me errors and I don't want to have to eliminate the combined techniques of my game :c
HeroicJay

#290 Jan 10, 2020, 03:55 AM Source

While it's something, that's still not enough information. Describe for me how the dualtechs for Homer are set up and which character used it when this bug happened? And if you get errors, what is the error? Due to the way code works, it's possible that the error is actually somewhere else but gets reported in my plugin - or that it's due to various plugins interacting in funny ways. (I'm not denying responsibility; I'm just saying that I don't have enough details to even know that I'm at fault.) The more information, the easier it will be to sort out what went wrong.
Final_zero

#291 Jan 12, 2020, 03:15 AM Source

Hey Ive been looking and cant find this anywhere but My skills both cost 100Tp However I want my dualtech to
Cost something dfifferent. Aka I would love it if my two characters only used 50 tp to cast this skill.
HeroicJay

#292 Jan 12, 2020, 04:00 AM Source

I would recommend either setting the dualtech as a component to itself (with a 50 TP cost) or using different components (they can be hidden from the player.) There is no functionality currently in place to override skill costs for the sake of the dualtech (and it is unlikely to happen; skill costs can be more than MP and TP via other plugins. This plugin accounts for that, but being able to modify skill costs could be really obnoxious and interfere with other plugins.)
Final_zero

#293 Jan 13, 2020, 05:39 PM Source

@HeroicJay Thanks. Ill keep it as it is then.
Crxstxan

#294 Jan 23, 2020, 02:47 PM Source

maybe with a video my mistake is better understood
zelanius

#295 May 23, 2020, 12:18 PM Source

Hi HeroicJay, I left some messages on errors I found in itch.io forum, but there was no responses on the possible bugs I found, so am trying my luck here. Understand though, that you might be quite busy, but I just thought posting here might help to get your attention to check the itch.io forum. Thanks!
audreypigari

#296 Jun 16, 2020, 03:26 AM Source

sad
HeroicJay

#297 Jun 17, 2020, 03:31 AM Source

And there's nothing I can do about it without more information than that. Just by looking at what the error is and where it occurred, my best guess would be that there's a dualtech trying to refer to a component skill that does not actually exist, but with just the one screenshot that's really the best guess I can provide.
Solar_Flare

#298 Jun 30, 2020, 12:52 PM Source

Any chance of a new version for this? It's not quite what I was looking for but is similar enough that I might be able to use it.
Shadowblade44

#299 Nov 28, 2020, 06:01 AM Source

Been having an issue with this that I have spent the past 2 hours attempting to solve.

No matter what I do the Dualtech skill refuses to show up in the skill list. I've done everything required of me, I've triple checked my spelling, I've triple checked the ID numbers, I've moved the plug in up the list one by one and tried it then. I am at a complete loss as to what is wrong and why this is not working.

EDIT: nevermind, turns out putting in the skill names doesn't work. I have to put in the IDs
HeroicJay

#300 Nov 28, 2020, 09:49 PM Source

Strange, skill names should work. Well, unless you have more than one skill with the exact same name; that might throw the plugin off. Well, as long as you got it working by ID number...
Zakarijazh

#301 Jan 28, 2021, 09:31 PM Source

Any word on when the plugin will be available again?