Jay's Dual Tech system

HeroicJay · 2015-10-27T15:13:35+0900

THIS PLUGIN IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE IN THIS FORUM A dual tech allows two characters to join forces and combine their skills into one more powerful skill. However, the use of one requires you to spend the cost of both characters' composite skills, so it can get quite MP (or TP) costly! To use it, just enter the following into the Note box of any skill: You can add more actors (up to ten, though you'll need an extra plugin to use more than four in battle, of course) by just listing them after Actor2's details and before HitRate. Make sure the parameters (other than HitRate, if you use it) always come in pairs; one for the actor ID and one for the skill. The ActorIDs should be their database ID numbers; the Skills can either be skill names or ID numbers. So: will work, so long as actor #1 learns Fire and actor #2 learns Ice. "HitRate" is optional, and accepts the following values: "user" - Uses the hit rate for the actor that used the skill. "first" or "actor1" - Uses the hit rate for the actor defined by Actor1ID. "second" or "actor2" - Uses the hit rate for the actor defined by Actor2ID. (You can go up to actor10, but only "first" and "second" are defined by written-out ordinal numbers.) "highest" - Between all actors, select the highest hit rate. "lowest" - Between all actors, select the lowest hit rate. NOTE: I have disabled the "sum" HitRate, since it doesn't really make a lot of sense even for two characters, and certainly not for more than that. If you don't set a HitRate, the hit rate will be the same as if you set it to "user". Magical and Certain Hit skills ignore hit rates anyway, so you may as well not bother with HitRate for those. For the damage formulae of dual and triple tech skills, you may refer to the actors with "c", "d", etc., with "c" being the first actor defined in the tag, "d" the second, and so on up to "l" (lowercase L). "a" still works for the one who initiated the skill, and "b" is, as always, the target. THINGS TO NOTE: For the time being, this dualtech script only uses the turn of one character (in fact, both associated characters can use the dualtech skill in the same turn, if they both can and you can afford the cost!) As dualtechs are (at least at present) tied to specific actors, you'll have to make new versions for different pairings, even if they know the same skills. Each party member has to learn the dualtech ability on their own. So if you want both party members calling it, teach both of them the dualtech skill. If you want one character to always initiate it, give it only to that one. However, the dualtech will only appear when the composite spells are learned and both characters are in the party, so feel free to teach every single one at level 1 if you don't want to have special unlock conditions for them. If you want to break the dependency of a dualtech on another tech, set it as a component to itself. This can be done for either or both of the actors defined in the skill. If you do this, the actor will use any MP or TP costs (or any other costs from plugins) associated with the dualtech skill in the database. Otherwise, the actor will ignore those costs and only spend the cost of the component skill. You can also teach the skill to a character not defined in the tag, which will (for that actor alone) treat the user as a part of the tech, and the user's "component" will be the tech itself. If you do this, however, it is not recommended to define the tech as a component for itself for any other actor. It lists the actors' names in the skill cost, which can get really, really unwieldy. To combat this, if you define Game_Actor.icon() to return icon IDs for each actor, you'll get icons instead. Down below, I have a small snippet of code that can do this for you (but there are other, more flexible ways to do it.) Or you can use the cycle parameters, mentioned below. This script is now fully compatible with Yanfly's SkillCore 1.01 and SkillCooldowns 1.02a! For compatibility purposes, please put this plugin below all plugins that modify skill cost or skill cost display in any fashion (plugins that do this that I'm aware of are the two aforementioned Yanfly plugins and Unconnected42's Ammunition plugin.) If you are using skill costs that come from a universal resource pool (in other words, something the entire party can access like money or items, not something individual like HP, MP, or TP) it is heavily recommended that you do not give the same type of cost to multiple actors for the same dualtech! (For instance, it is not recommended that Actor 1 uses a skill that uses up one Potion and Actor 2 uses a skill that uses up two Potions. If you have exactly two Potions, the plugin will actually let you use the skill and wind up with negative one Potions.) If the cost for each actor comes from a different pool (like A…

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ScytheX

#261 Apr 14, 2019, 03:15 PM Source

HeroicJay said:
Sooooooooooo.

Um.

I've bee saying for months that there's no good way that will satisfy everyone to link turns under DTB. And, well, in absence of other plugins, that's entirely true.

Soooooooooooooooooooo...

Why did no one ever tell me that Yanfly's Battle Status Window plugin lets you switch between actors by pressing left and right when under the DTB? I seriously had no clue whatsoever. That one little feature makes every last problem I had with linked-turn dualtechs vanish in a puff of irrelevance.

If I knew that feature existed, I'd have implemented linked-turn dualtechs under Battle Status Window-powered DTB ages ago.

(It helps that I do not think the primary feature of Battle Status Window makes much sense to be applied to side-view battles, and my main project uses side-view battles because of course it does.)
some times people ether don't know about that or forget about the feature XD
PinkPrincessGames

#262 Jul 6, 2019, 01:33 PM Source

Is the download link for this gonna be put back up soon? This is exactly the plugin I was looking for!
HeroicJay

#263 Jul 6, 2019, 06:09 PM Source

The reason for the link being removed was because I promoted it to being a "premium" plugin in my shop, but was instructed not to link to my shop here. Sorry for any inconvenience. But I'm sure it could be found via Google search or something.
jai2016

#264 Jul 28, 2019, 11:43 AM Source

Hey Jay, thinking of buying this plug in, but does it work with Moghunters plug ins?
HeroicJay

#265 Jul 28, 2019, 08:07 PM Source

I'm not aware of any incompatibilities, but it might depend on which Moghunter plugin you're talking about. If it alters skill cost display, there's still the "does it return the width of the remaining space?" question, to which I do not know the answer, as I do not use Moghunter plugins (that's the most likely place for an incompatibility.)

If it's an alternate battle system (again, I don't know which plugins you mean), then linking turns probably won't be possible, as (in the current version) that's only available for certain Yanfly battle systems. But that's not an incompatibility - the plugin would most likely work fine - just something a lot of people ask about.
jai2016

#266 Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 AM Source

Thanks for replying, I'm using Mogs master plugin, so it's not Chrono engine or Linear Motion. I'll find out more if anyone else has, if not, then I will leave it for now. Cheers.
Vapor0907

#267 Aug 25, 2019, 11:21 PM Source

I’m having an issue with the pluggin. I’ve made sure to have done everything correctly in the Skill menu but when I try to view the actual skill I get the Error ‘Cannot read property ‘tpCost’ of undefined’ do you have any idea of what causes this?
HeroicJay

#268 Aug 26, 2019, 02:25 AM Source

Were I to guess with the information provided, my guess would be that it's searching for a component skill that does not exist. But that's just a hunch; I'll need more information. Can you screenshot the skill window where you define the dualtech?
Vapor0907

#270 Aug 26, 2019, 02:47 AM Source

I tried it with both the skill numbers and the skill names. Neither of these skills require tp but changing that factor didn’t fix the issue. In the battle menu the skill simply doesn’t appear but the game crashes when I look at the skill menu.
HeroicJay

#271 Aug 26, 2019, 02:48 AM Source

Hm, nothing looks wrong on that front. Further questions:

1. What version of the plugin are you using (newest is 3.1.1)?
2. What is the ID of the actor with Healblade in his/her menu? 1? 4? Both? Someone else?
3. Are you using any other plugins that affect skills in any way?
4. Are you using Cycle Actors?

It's hard for me to say from here as I've never encountered this before.
Vapor0907

#272 Aug 26, 2019, 02:50 AM Source

Ah looks like I’m using an old version of the plugin. That’s most likely the problem. Where could I find the newest version?
HeroicJay

#273 Aug 26, 2019, 02:54 AM Source

I've been discouraged from giving out the link, because it's been promoted to a premium (read: not free) plugin. I was just spitballing, though: I haven't encountered this problem in any version, before it was premium or after. Please answer the questions in my previous post, as it will most likely help me pinpoint the issue (or at least help me narrow down what it isn't.)
Vapor0907

#274 Aug 26, 2019, 02:57 AM Source

Alright the ID of the actor with heal blade is 1 and 4 doesn’t have it.

The only other plugin that I have that affects skills is YEP_SkillCore

And I am using cycle actors

Hope this helps
HeroicJay

#275 Aug 26, 2019, 03:02 AM Source

Still want version number, but I'll look into version 2.0 (which was pre-premium) and see if there's anything up.
Vapor0907

#276 Aug 26, 2019, 03:04 AM Source

It looks like I’m only on version 1.1 of the plugin.
HeroicJay

#277 Aug 26, 2019, 03:08 AM Source

Hm, I don't see anything like that in 2.0. I can't remember if I have any 1.1 copies lying around, but I'll poke around my files. EDIT: I do, and no repro in 1.1 either.

Can you bring up the debugger and get the full call stack? Debugger is on F8 (if you're playing in Debug mode). Just bring it up, crash the game, and copy/paste the call stack.
Vapor0907

#278 Aug 26, 2019, 03:19 AM Source

Here you go, I'm not too good at this sort of thing so I'm not sure if all of this is neccessary but better safe than sorry I suppose.

TypeError: Cannot read property 'tpCost' of undefined
at Game_Actor.Game_BattlerBase.skillTpCost (YEP_SkillCore.js:827)
at Window_SkillList.drawTpCost (YEP_SkillCore.js:1256)
at Window_SkillList.drawSkillCost (YEP_SkillCore.js:1247)
at Window_SkillList.drawNonDualSkillCost (Jay_Dualtechs.js:265)
at Window_SkillList.drawComponentSkillCost (Jay_Dualtechs.js:281)
at Window_SkillList.drawSkillCost (Jay_Dualtechs.js:247)
at Window_SkillList.drawItem (rpg_windows.js:2213)
at Window_SkillList.Window_Selectable.drawAllItems (rpg_windows.js:1256)
at Window_SkillList.refresh (rpg_windows.js:2239)
at Window_SkillList.setStypeId (rpg_windows.js:2151)
SceneManager.catchException @ rpg_managers.js:1949
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1910
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
requestAnimationFrame (async)
SceneManager.requestUpdate @ rpg_managers.js:1896
SceneManager.updateMain @ rpg_managers.js:1988
SceneManager.updateMain @ YEP_FpsSynchOption.js:201
SceneManager.update @ rpg_managers.js:1907
HeroicJay

#279 Aug 26, 2019, 03:24 AM Source

I don't need all the "SceneManager" lines and the stuff between them, but better too much than too little. I'm still stumped, but I can poke at it some more. A thought did occur to me: what version of YEP_SkillCore do you have? I didn't even consider before now that the issue could be in there.

EDIT: That's odd, in my copy of Dualtechs 1.1, line 265 is a blank line, but your call stack says there's a drawNonDualSkillCost call there. Ah, but it's close enough, don't worry about it. Maybe an extra blank line or two slipped into someone's copy; nothing to worry about unless we're given a particular reason to worry about it.
Vapor0907

#280 Aug 26, 2019, 03:31 AM Source

I have version v1.13 of YEP_SkillCore
HeroicJay

#281 Aug 26, 2019, 03:37 AM Source

Ah, that's what I'm testing with. Sorry, I could replicate your problem by deliberately passing a "null" (read: nonexistent) skill into drawNonDualSkillCost, confirming my original hunch about what's happening... but I have no clue as to why it's getting a bad skill from where I'm sitting.

Is this the only dualtech your actor has learned? And are you sure every other skill they have learned is valid? (Like, and I'm just making a suggestion here, you didn't teach the actor skill #189 and then reduced the skill list to 170 or something like that?) EDIT: No, if it's going to DrawComponentSkillCost, that last one doesn't seem likely.