Jay's Dual Tech system

HeroicJay · 2015-10-27T15:13:35+0900

THIS PLUGIN IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE IN THIS FORUM A dual tech allows two characters to join forces and combine their skills into one more powerful skill. However, the use of one requires you to spend the cost of both characters' composite skills, so it can get quite MP (or TP) costly! To use it, just enter the following into the Note box of any skill: You can add more actors (up to ten, though you'll need an extra plugin to use more than four in battle, of course) by just listing them after Actor2's details and before HitRate. Make sure the parameters (other than HitRate, if you use it) always come in pairs; one for the actor ID and one for the skill. The ActorIDs should be their database ID numbers; the Skills can either be skill names or ID numbers. So: will work, so long as actor #1 learns Fire and actor #2 learns Ice. "HitRate" is optional, and accepts the following values: "user" - Uses the hit rate for the actor that used the skill. "first" or "actor1" - Uses the hit rate for the actor defined by Actor1ID. "second" or "actor2" - Uses the hit rate for the actor defined by Actor2ID. (You can go up to actor10, but only "first" and "second" are defined by written-out ordinal numbers.) "highest" - Between all actors, select the highest hit rate. "lowest" - Between all actors, select the lowest hit rate. NOTE: I have disabled the "sum" HitRate, since it doesn't really make a lot of sense even for two characters, and certainly not for more than that. If you don't set a HitRate, the hit rate will be the same as if you set it to "user". Magical and Certain Hit skills ignore hit rates anyway, so you may as well not bother with HitRate for those. For the damage formulae of dual and triple tech skills, you may refer to the actors with "c", "d", etc., with "c" being the first actor defined in the tag, "d" the second, and so on up to "l" (lowercase L). "a" still works for the one who initiated the skill, and "b" is, as always, the target. THINGS TO NOTE: For the time being, this dualtech script only uses the turn of one character (in fact, both associated characters can use the dualtech skill in the same turn, if they both can and you can afford the cost!) As dualtechs are (at least at present) tied to specific actors, you'll have to make new versions for different pairings, even if they know the same skills. Each party member has to learn the dualtech ability on their own. So if you want both party members calling it, teach both of them the dualtech skill. If you want one character to always initiate it, give it only to that one. However, the dualtech will only appear when the composite spells are learned and both characters are in the party, so feel free to teach every single one at level 1 if you don't want to have special unlock conditions for them. If you want to break the dependency of a dualtech on another tech, set it as a component to itself. This can be done for either or both of the actors defined in the skill. If you do this, the actor will use any MP or TP costs (or any other costs from plugins) associated with the dualtech skill in the database. Otherwise, the actor will ignore those costs and only spend the cost of the component skill. You can also teach the skill to a character not defined in the tag, which will (for that actor alone) treat the user as a part of the tech, and the user's "component" will be the tech itself. If you do this, however, it is not recommended to define the tech as a component for itself for any other actor. It lists the actors' names in the skill cost, which can get really, really unwieldy. To combat this, if you define Game_Actor.icon() to return icon IDs for each actor, you'll get icons instead. Down below, I have a small snippet of code that can do this for you (but there are other, more flexible ways to do it.) Or you can use the cycle parameters, mentioned below. This script is now fully compatible with Yanfly's SkillCore 1.01 and SkillCooldowns 1.02a! For compatibility purposes, please put this plugin below all plugins that modify skill cost or skill cost display in any fashion (plugins that do this that I'm aware of are the two aforementioned Yanfly plugins and Unconnected42's Ammunition plugin.) If you are using skill costs that come from a universal resource pool (in other words, something the entire party can access like money or items, not something individual like HP, MP, or TP) it is heavily recommended that you do not give the same type of cost to multiple actors for the same dualtech! (For instance, it is not recommended that Actor 1 uses a skill that uses up one Potion and Actor 2 uses a skill that uses up two Potions. If you have exactly two Potions, the plugin will actually let you use the skill and wind up with negative one Potions.) If the cost for each actor comes from a different pool (like A…

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Serpent_Lord

#322 Jun 7, 2022, 01:01 PM Source

Is it compatible with RMMV version 1.6.2?
I heard there's plenty of plugin that has the compatibility issue with the current version
bgrizzmayne

#323 Aug 3, 2022, 11:58 PM Source

Edit: solved
bgrizzmayne

#324 Aug 5, 2022, 06:03 AM Source

Jay and I have been chatting about this on the side. But just to see:

Curious if there's anyone out there running Jay's Dual Tech plugin in MZ in conjunction with any of the Visustella plugins. I'm using Visustella's CTB and skills/states, and am curious if anyone's made the two work?

Plugins for MZ are so limited that I don't know if I could make my game without some of Visustella's Battlecore, etc. But just curious if anyone's found workarounds.
Puppet Knight

#325 Apr 29, 2023, 11:30 PM Source

Hey all,

For the life of me I cant get damage to occur when it definitely should be.

The damage formula:

The note tag:

Im using the MZ version, turns are being shared when the Dual Tech is used, cost is being paid by both actors, but I'm only getting 0s

Is there anything I'm doing wrong here?

Also is there a way to make it so the dual tech only appears if all needed members are present and know thier components?
HeroicJay

#326 Apr 30, 2023, 12:35 AM Source

I'm not sure what is going on with the 0 damage from this post alone. Also, the dualtech only appearing if all members are present with their components should be default behavior. I might have to do more MZ testing, but from this post alone I don't know the problem. Could there be other plugins involved? (Also, the MZ version isn't mentioned in this forum; asking in the itch.io shop would have been better.)

EDIT: Not seeing the zero damage bug. You sure the characters' stats are able to overcome the monster's magic defense? I am seeing weirdness for when the skill appears and will look into that.

EDIT2: Oh, wait, never mind, I forgot about skill categories. Yeah, I'm seeing no problems here. I suspect there could be a plugin incompatibility. Check to see if any of your other plugins, especially those listed after Dualtechs in your plugin list, are modifying Game_Action.prototype.evalDamageFormula and/or Window_SkillList.prototype.includes (and I know some MZ plugins are obfuscated to prevent people from looking at the code.)
Puppet Knight

#327 Apr 30, 2023, 03:03 AM Source

HeroicJay said:
Check to see if any of your other plugins, especially those listed after Dualtechs in your plugin list, are modifying Game_Action.prototype.evalDamageFormula and/or Window_SkillList.prototype.includes
I'll look into this. Very likely it's a plugin conflict, I have a LOT of skill altering plugins going on at once haha
ArtisticChaos

#328 Apr 30, 2023, 09:17 AM Source

not available anymore... where CAN i find it?
Robro33

#329 Apr 30, 2023, 09:30 AM Source

Sweetmayham said:
not available anymore... where CAN i find it?
Edit: removed the link. Its available at Itch.io
tsurugikage

#330 Mar 4, 2025, 09:29 PM Source

Any advice for using Visustellsa's battle core to make the users animated when the skill is used?

I am trying to get them to do the action, but it seems to only be targeting the one I casted with.