RPG Maker MV Lag Solution

Archeia · 2015-10-24T22:49:04+0900

OK everyone. This topic is to help you all to fix your lag issues and as such, please read the following! However, if nothing works, I'm afraid that you might need to buy a new PC or parts especially if they're made before 2009. (Especially PCs/GPUs build before 2009, see below) Of course, if the driver can still be updated and it was made before 2009, it could still work. But no guarantees. UI/Editor Lagging If I see it right, MV uses QT with QtQuick, so no native components. I am not sure which graphics system is used since QT supports multiple but it could be also related to OpenGL, so if the graphics card or driver doesn’t support OpenGL it could result in lagging. Game/Test-Play Lagging MV uses NW.js for offline PC/Mac games and also for test-play. It uses PIXI.js which is based HTML5 Canvas/WebGL. So the same problem with OpenGL, if its not supported everything will be slow. Except on some browsers like Firefox, Chrome, etc. since they are able to map the OpenGL calls to DirectX/Direct3D calls using ANGLE. That would explain if the web-demo works fast but the test-play not for some users. NW.js also supports that since it based on Chromium, but sometimes its not working, for example if the DirectX 9.0.c Redistributable is not there or if some DLLs are missing. But there is an additional problem, because Canvas/WebGL doesn’t support some GPUs/Drivers because they are on the GPU black-list to avoid crashes, etc. You have to keep in mind that HTML5 is actually a Web-Technology, so stability & security is very important. HOW TO SOLVE You should try the following steps. 1. Check that your graphics card supports OpenGL. 2. Go the website of your graphics card manufacture (NVIDIA, AMD, etc.) and download & install the latest driver for your graphics card. Make that the driver supports OpenGL. 3. If the games are still not running fast after these two steps, you should try to edit the package.json and add the following line: { "name": "KADOKAWA/RPGMV", "main": "www/index.html", "js-flags": "--expose-gc", "chromium-args": "--ignore-gpu-blacklist", "window": { "title": "", "toolbar": true, "width": 816, "height": 624, "icon": "www/icon/icon.png" } } The package.js can be found in the installation directory of MV: On Mac its in: /Users/ /Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/RPG Maker MV/RPG Maker MV.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs-mac/package.json On Windows: /nwjs-win/package.json 4. If that is not working or if the game crashes, try install DirectX 9.0c Redistributable package: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 5. Make sure your laptop is set to High Performance! Remember to restart RPG Maker MV after! 6. If all these steps are not working, please let us know and check this information from WebGL Wiki: Windows: • On all versions of Windows, WebGL is disabled on all graphics drivers older than January 1, 2009. • Additionally, on Windows XP, WebGL is disabled on ATI/AMD drivers older than version 10.6, on NVIDIA drivers older than version 257.21, and on Intel drivers older than version 14.42.7.5294. • WebGL is disabled on NVIDIA driver 6.14.11.9621 on Windows XP. • WebGL is always disabled on ATI FireNV 2400. • WebGL is disabled on Parallels drivers older than 7. • WebGL is always disabled on S3 Trio cards. Mac: • On Mac OS X, WebGL is disabled on: • ATI Radeon X1900 • NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT • Additionally, when an external monitor is plugged in to a Mac OS X laptop, multisampling is disabled because of rendering corruption bugs (http://crbug.com/237931). Source: https://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/BlacklistsAndWhitelists

● ARCHIVED · READ-ONLY

Started by Archeia Oct 24, 2015, 01:49 PM 71 posts Page 2 of 4 View original ↗

Seriel

#21 Oct 24, 2015, 02:44 PM Source

Wait! I think my problem was partially solved because I changed the power settings to High Perfomance when you mentioned it!

Leo Epitav, you have my thanks. I can now at least use MV ;)
Archeia

#22 Oct 24, 2015, 02:44 PM Source

OK! Let's add laptops to the list w
Kes

#23 Oct 24, 2015, 02:45 PM Source

I have already removed all M4a files. The BGM folder only contains a few custom tracks, no default files at all.
Archeia

#24 Oct 24, 2015, 02:46 PM Source

ksjp17 said:
I have already removed all M4a files. The BGM folder only contains a few custom tracks, no default files at all.
I have a feeling it's an encoding issue. Can you try installing this by any chance? www.cccp-project.net
Seriel

#25 Oct 24, 2015, 02:48 PM Source

Archeia said:
I have a feeling it's an encoding issue. Can you try installing this by any chance? www.cccp-project.net
I already had cccp installed and it still has the lag before playing audio.
Hoppy

#26 Oct 24, 2015, 03:01 PM Source

Lankaino said:
I still think the whole HTML5 thing for this version of RPG Maker was a really bad idea.

Especially after all the bad things I heard about HTML5 not being supported enough due to these exact reasons.

Heck, even people have problems with YouTube now that they switched from Adobe to HTML5.

A lot of people, including me use SMPlayer because of the HTML5 YouTube Player being laggy and terrible.

I also feel like MV should bring back the RTP style with optional

downloads for Windows RTP, Mac RTP, and iOS RTP or something

so everything isn't all bundled up in one big folder making everything look

so confusing compared to the previous makers.

P.S: Does Enterbrain not develop RPG Maker anymore?

They did a better job on the programs it seems.
The Youtube player is just badly optimized for anything but super high end PCs (and that's no guarantee either as some owners of those have issues especially with HD video), phones, and gaming consoles (as YT works well on the PS4 and Vita in the browser and I hear no issues with the Xbox One either, the 3DS one is terrible though, it works well on my smartphone as well). Both Chrome and FF had issues with memory leaks with HTML5 video on YT.
Kes

#27 Oct 24, 2015, 03:04 PM Source

I've installed it, and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

At the beginning of the game the title screen comes up without the music for a second or two.

In the first part of the intro cut scene the music changes, and there is a period of silence before the new music starts (in Ace it was an instant change)

A bit later when there is a change to a different map, the new BGM for that map doesn't kick in immediately, even though the Play BGM event command is on parallel process.
Seriel

#28 Oct 24, 2015, 03:05 PM Source

Alright, I tried my beefy desktop I rarely use.

No problems at all.

Just... thought i'd say that.

I have a feeling i'm going to use my desktop a lot more now... xD
Leo Epitav

#29 Oct 24, 2015, 03:16 PM Source

Could People Please Say What Version of Windows are you using?

Windows 10 seems to work fine for me as long as I have my laptop plugged in (fixes lag problem but I Never had BGM Issues or force closing).

Now people with laptops And Pcs should say what windows they use because I heard Windows 7 have problems with mv.
Seriel

#30 Oct 24, 2015, 03:26 PM Source

My desktop with Windows 7 has no issues.

Playtests at constant 60 FPS. No issues in Editor.

My Laptop is going to fall into disuse soon :p Thats a shame because Ace worked so well..
Dragon12

#31 Oct 24, 2015, 03:28 PM Source

I have Intel Pentium e5500 is MV work on it?
Leo Epitav

#32 Oct 24, 2015, 03:29 PM Source

Kirikaz said:
My desktop with Windows 7 has no issues.

Playtests at constant 60 FPS. No issues in Editor.

My Laptop is going to fall into disuse soon :p Thats a shame because Ace worked so well..
Doubt its your laptop

but Maybe RPGMAKER MV Require 1 gb video ram.. don't know for sure yet.
Seriel

#33 Oct 24, 2015, 03:32 PM Source

Miss.Alina said:
I have Intel Pentium e5500 is MV work on it?
Try it!

That's what the trial's for! ;)
Kes

#34 Oct 24, 2015, 03:37 PM Source

I have Windows 7 on an HP Pavlian g series laptop

6Gb RAM

Processor: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon HD Graphics
Bicept

#35 Oct 24, 2015, 03:40 PM Source

ksjp17 said:
I've installed it, and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

At the beginning of the game the title screen comes up without the music for a second or two.

In the first part of the intro cut scene the music changes, and there is a period of silence before the new music starts (in Ace it was an instant change)

A bit later when there is a change to a different map, the new BGM for that map doesn't kick in immediately, even though the Play BGM event command is on parallel process.
I have the same issue except it's a 4-5 second delay. The problem doesn't occur in battle mode so maybe it's related to loading maps?
Khaldriel

#36 Oct 24, 2015, 04:14 PM Source

Reposting my system specs:

Mother ASUS

i7 2600k @3.40 GHz

16gb Ram @1600 MHz

ATI - r280x (latest stable drivers)

850w PSU

HD: 1 128gb SSD, 1 1tb and 1 500gb

W8.1
DirectX updated, Drivers updated, OpenGL obviously supported.

Edited package.json with the removal of the blacklist.

The editor delays still happen, the in-game autotile fps stuttering issue still happens.

This is what happens in-game when using autotiles (it's an empty 40x23 map filled with the top-left water autotile, and no, the stuttering is not because of the record software, it happens everytime), otherwise it seems to run at 60 without issues, but theres definitely something wrong with autotiles, even Ace didn't have this issue even using higher resolutions.

-Default Res:

-With Yanfly's Engine Core Plugin (1920x1080):

So, this must be a bug or a problem with the engine itself, because even without plugins it still happens.
Then there's the delayed sound issue too, where it starts 1 or 2 seconds after it should.
whitesphere

#37 Oct 24, 2015, 04:33 PM Source

I am also seeing lag. In particular, on my world map, where there are a lot of the animated sea tiles.

My system info:

Spoiler
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro

Version 10.0.10240 Build 10240

Other OS Description Not Available

OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation

System Name MEGABOX

System Manufacturer ASUS

System Model All Series

System Type x64-based PC

System SKU All

Processor Intel® Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4001 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)

BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2507, 10/9/2014

SMBIOS Version 2.8

Embedded Controller Version 255.255

BIOS Mode Legacy

BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.

BaseBoard Model Not Available

BaseBoard Name Base Board

Platform Role Desktop

Secure Boot State Unsupported

PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible

Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS

System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32

Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2

Locale United States

Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.10240.16392"

User Name MegaBox\cpetit

Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB

Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB

Available Physical Memory 11.1 GB

Total Virtual Memory 31.9 GB

Available Virtual Memory 26.0 GB

Page File Space 16.0 GB

Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes

Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes

Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No

Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

And my video card:

Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FC6&SUBSYS_8A961462&REV_A1\4&3834D97&0&0008

Adapter Type GeForce GTX 650, NVIDIA compatible

Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

Adapter RAM (2,147,483,648) bytes

Installed Drivers nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um

Driver Version 10.18.13.5582

INF File oem120.inf (Section009 section)

Color Planes Not Available

Color Table Entries 4294967296

Resolution 1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz

Bits/Pixel 32

Memory Address 0xF6000000-0xF6FFFFFF

Memory Address 0xE8000000-0xEFFFFFFF

Memory Address 0xF0000000-0xF1FFFFFF

I/O Port 0x0000E000-0x0000E07F

IRQ Channel IRQ 16

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF

Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nvlddmkm.sys (10.18.13.5582, 10.67 MB (11,188,880 bytes), 7/29/2015 5:25 PM)

It seems like, when the animated tile changes (probably requiring a full screen redraw) is exactly when I see the lag happen. I can see my party moving smoothly across the map, but each time the tiles change is when I see the party stutter.
RishWars

#38 Oct 24, 2015, 05:33 PM Source

still getting whit screen!
Felix Trapper

#39 Oct 24, 2015, 06:28 PM Source
Did everything as instructed, still lagging.
- Lag during tile placement (Holding down mouse button to map, there is a noticeable lag between 1st and 2nd tile placement, then the rest place smoothly)
- 0.5~2 second lag while switching between Database tabs
- Massive lag when playing on a map with lots of autotiles / water tiles
I challenge anyone to create a 256x256 map, fill it with water, and then record a video of you playing it and walking around without lag. I think people saying that they aren't getting lag just haven't tested certain scenarios--for example, my first night with MV I was also happy to report no in-game lag, but I was just playing on small <50x50 maps with normal amounts of autotiles. Edit: Just opened VX Ace, made a 500x500 map with pure water, and proceeded to play it without a single frame drop just fine.

I will likely be seeking a refund on this software and returning to the makers that actually work. I have a custom built $1500 gaming PC that has no trouble running games like Witcher 3 on Ultra, having some dinky sprites walk around a tile based map should be no problem (and it wasn't, for all previous makers installed on this same machine)

Spoiler
Seriel

#40 Oct 24, 2015, 06:31 PM Source

RishWars said:
still getting whit screen!
Read my response to your PM. (Or the other topics i've told you in)

I've told you what to do countless times.