Project FOSSIL (v1.0): Use MV plugins in MZ! 300+ plugins Fossilized!

Restart · 2021-04-16T09:31:04+0900

Project FOSSIL V1.0 By: FOSSIL TEAM Introduction Project FOSSIL (Fixing Old Software / Script Interoperability Layer) is a single RPG Maker MZ plugin designed to expand the use and usefulness of RPG MAKER MV plugins, by allowing them to work in RPG MAKER MZ projects. FOSSIL doesn't port plugins. FOSSIL makes porting unnecessary! I got a copy of RPG Maker MZ a little while ago, and I think the editor is even better than RPG Maker MV. The only problem is that it's competing with RMMV's deep library of plugins. MV had such a huge number of great plugins (thanks to the tireless work of Yanfly, Moghunter, SRD, Galv, and too many other authors to list here) that it will be a long time before they all get rewritten to work with the new engine. I decided to try to figure out a way to speed things up. Instead of having to change every single MV plugin to work with MZ, I'm going to see if we can change MZ so it can work with the old plugins, and still keep all the engine upgrades. That way, we'll have the best of both worlds. What I came up with was FOSSIL. FOSSIL does basic interoperability things - it makes MZ able to understand commands from old MV plugins. For instance, when you make a window in MZ, the engine expects you to hand it a single 'rectangle' which tells it exactly where the window should go, and how big it should be. In MV, when you make a window, what you hand the engine can be very different - it might just be 'how many lines of text there are in this window', or it could be 'the x coordinate, y coordinate, width, and height'. Before any of those commands get to the core engine, FOSSIL converts them into the rectangle that MZ expects. That way, you don't have to actually change how the plugin tries to create a window - FOSSIL just translates it into terms MZ can understand, and then it's fixed everywhere. Plus, this way, we can make old MV plugins work in MZ while still respecting any licensing they have. Instead of having to track down people who might have left the community, and asking them if we can copy their plugin and make a changed version, we can just use FOSSIL and make MZ understand what the plugin is trying to do. I have tried my best to minimize any side-effects from FOSSIL's existence. In my test projects there weren't any noticeable changes, but it's entirely possible I accidentally broke something. If that's the case, please post about it in this thread. I'm super excited about the possibilities with FOSSIL, and I hope a lot of people join in (hence why I'm crediting FOSSIL TEAM). I don't want this to be 'my' plugin, I want the whole community to be able to use all the MV and MZ plugins with the newest engine, and I think everyone here who makes MV plugins knows enough to help improve it. How to Use FOSSIL is a single plugin that must go at the beginning of your plugin list. There are no settings to tweak. Since FOSSIL isn't a port, you still need to have the original, unaltered MV plugins, and put them into your game as usual. So far I have tested over three hundred working plugins (see list), and there's a good chance that even if they aren't listed, most simple plugins will just work 'out of the box' with no tweaks. How to Write a Fix for Fossil FOSSIL now automatically detects where plugins are in the list, and applies patches directly before or after the appropriate plugin. For example, WAY_Core needs us to back up the plugin manager commands before WAY_Core actually runs and changes them. Since we need to run the code before WAY_Core executes, this requires a PreFix. Here's the code in FOSSIL that makes that happen: Code: Fossil.loadPreFix('WAY_Core',function() { Fossil.backupPluginManagerCommands=PluginManager._commands; }) //^ see that closing bracket and parenthesis? //That's important not to forget. The 'WAY_Core' parameter in loadPreFix tells FOSSIL which plugin it should be looking at. The code for the fix itself is within the function: Code: function() { Fossil.backupPluginManagerCommands=PluginManager._commands; } Because this is loadPreFix, the code will be run just before WAY_Core is executed. If you need to be before multiple plugins, you can list all of them in an array ['pluginA','pluginB','pluginC'], and it will run immediately before the first one in plugin order (ignoring plugins that aren't in your project). If we use loadPostFix instead, the code would be run immediately after WAY_Core. (And listing multiple plugins in loadPostFix will result in applying the fix immediately after the last one in the list). Plugin Order There is only one order possible: 1) FOSSIL.js (First plugin) 2) All other plugins. Other than that, put the plugins ordered the same way you'd put them in MZ or MV. Put plugins that extend each other together like usual. I can't really give more specific instructions than that, it'll all be on a case-by-case basis as normal. Using Old Plugin Commands You have three ways of using plugin commands for MV projects A: use the built in plugin comman…

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IANxy97

#446 Mar 30, 2023, 05:10 PM Source

Restart said:

Can you re-upload this? I need it.
Roninator2

#447 Mar 30, 2023, 07:08 PM Source

@IANxy97 look through the thread. there have been several posts with the script available in other links.
ItsYa1UPBoy

#448 May 9, 2023, 02:06 AM Source

Does anybody know if Luna Engine MV works with this? I'm not about to pay $60 for something that won't work for me, but I'd like to know if anyone does own a LE-MV license and has tested/can test it. If so it would be a great boon to my work. Right now I'm doing the Khan Academy course on JS, but to be able to make custom menus even before I've finished the course would be awesome. (I'd be finishing the course regardless, it will be helpful to know whether or not I can use LE-MV.)
Arthran

#449 May 9, 2023, 03:30 AM Source

ItsYa1UPBoy said:
Does anybody know if Luna Engine MV works with this? I'm not about to pay $60 for something that won't work for me, but I'd like to know if anyone does own a LE-MV license and has tested/can test it. If so it would be a great boon to my work. Right now I'm doing the Khan Academy course on JS, but to be able to make custom menus even before I've finished the course would be awesome. (I'd be finishing the course regardless, it will be helpful to know whether or not I can use LE-MV.)
I don't own Luna Engine, so I can't say for sure. However, based on how FOSSIL operates, I think it's unlikely that Luna Engine would work with it.
ItsYa1UPBoy

#450 May 9, 2023, 03:47 AM Source

Thank you for your response, Arthran. I wasn't sure how complex LE-MV truly is; it certainly seems more complex than your average plugin (and thus not receptive to the hotfixes that FOSSIL performs), so I guess I'll just hope for a future LE-MZ release and putter on with JS lessons in the meantime.
Arthran

#451 May 9, 2023, 05:50 AM Source

ItsYa1UPBoy said:
Thank you for your response, Arthran. I wasn't sure how complex LE-MV truly is; it certainly seems more complex than your average plugin (and thus not receptive to the hotfixes that FOSSIL performs), so I guess I'll just hope for a future LE-MZ release and putter on with JS lessons in the meantime.
No problem. The issue is that, for most plugins that work well with FOSSIL, the author of FOSSIL had to go in and add patches specifically tailored for those plugins--especially in cases where those plugins involve the UI. As Luna Engine seemingly sticks its fingers into every aspect of the UI, and FOSSIL doesn't include any patches for Luna Engine, it's very doubtful that it would work.

That being said, based on my (admittedly) limited understanding of Luna Engine, I don't suspect that you're missing out on anything that's worth spending $60 for. At that price, I would expect it to include a visual editor of some sort, so you could click and drag things around, and edit them in real time and whatnot. Since, as far as I can tell, it doesn't include anything like that, I'd personally rather just edit the menus via JavaScript.
ItsYa1UPBoy

#452 May 9, 2023, 06:52 AM Source

Oh wow, I thought LE *was* a visual editor (that exported a plugin like MADO). Yeah, I guess I'll keep with JS then, that will be more flexible and much cheaper.
Azope

#453 May 27, 2023, 10:06 AM Source

That look like a usefull tool , but the link go to a 404 error does the projet be dead ?
Aerosys

#454 May 27, 2023, 05:19 PM Source

Azope said:
That look like a usefull tool , but the link go to a 404 error does the projet be dead ?
There are some mirror links when browsing this thread, the project, however, is no longer maintained.
Azope

#455 May 27, 2023, 08:30 PM Source

Aerosys said:
There are some mirror links when browsing this thread, the project, however, is no longer maintained.
so it cannot be use ? or it stil work somhow if yes i would like a link if not that fine too i will continu to use mv instead
Aerosys

#456 May 27, 2023, 09:22 PM Source

Azope said:
so it cannot be use ? or it stil work somhow if yes i would like a link if not that fine too i will continu to use mv instead
It works for some but not all MV plugins. I think the list of supported plugins on the first page is still up to date.
bookco

#457 Jun 17, 2023, 03:22 AM Source

I don't know if this is an appropriate place to ask, since the plugins I am asking about haven't been listed on the compatibility list yet, but I have a question about MZ3D and the YR_CCEx compatibility patch for SRD's CharacterCreatorEX and DynamicActors plugins.

I had everything working not long ago, but for some reason, now, when I change character's equipment, the <Force Clothing Piece: Clothing (x)> notetag is only being recognized on game load. This holds in a game file that only has the following plugins installed in the recommended order:

FOSSIL
CCEx_FOSSIL
YR_CCEx_Xs_no_GameUpgrade
SRD_SuperToolsEngine
SRD_CharacterCreatorEX
mz3d
YR_CCEX_Enhanced_X_c2
SRD_CCEX_DynamicActors
SRD_CCEX_MessageFaces

EDIT: It started working again out of nowhere. I am not sure why.
DTurtle

#458 Aug 27, 2023, 11:19 AM Source

Splatterguy said:
MOG CHRONO ENGINE

Hi guys!

I have converted my MV project to MZ.
But now MOG'S CHORNO ENGINE no longer works.

Whenever I press the key to hit, I get the following error.

Any ideas how to fix that?

View attachment 249282

I'm having the same issue. Did you or anyone else figure out how to get this working?
Aerosys

#459 Aug 27, 2023, 12:21 PM Source

It is very unlikely that a different person than the creator themselves can convert such a big plugin from MV to MZ.

Maaaaaaybe it helps to use only MV-style animations in the database.
Jrrkein

#460 Sep 1, 2023, 11:25 AM Source

I'm still looking for that word warp and window script thing, but that link is far gone now.

If anyone have it, it be swell if they upload it
ATT_Turan

#461 Sep 1, 2023, 01:17 PM Source

@Jrrkein What are you talking about?

If you're referencing something from another post in the thread, other people need you to quote from/link to it so they know what you're talking about - there's nothing on this page of the thread about word wrap and window script.
Jrrkein

#462 Sep 1, 2023, 07:27 PM Source

ATT_Turan said:
@Jrrkein What are you talking about?

If you're referencing something from another post in the thread, other people need you to quote from/link to it so they know what you're talking about - there's nothing on this page of the thread about word wrap and window script.
The author made a plugin which makes the window fully square and not streching beyond. Since the github is dead I can't find that script
Roninator2

#463 Sep 1, 2023, 08:46 PM Source

Jrrkein said:
The author made a plugin which makes the window fully square and not streching beyond. Since the github is dead I can't find that script
What plugin, what link?
Jrrkein

#464 Sep 1, 2023, 09:23 PM Source

Roninator2 said:
What plugin, what link?
He makes the ones that makes the window of old plugin fixed proportion.
YeXin

#465 Sep 5, 2023, 03:44 AM Source

I wonder if this will make Moghunter's MV monogatari menu work on MZ