PVGames 2.5D Graphics

Jesse - PVGames · 2019-05-04T02:55:05+0900

Visit this thread for a larger selection of examples. Spoiler: More Tile Images Inside! Large Statues (with and without plinths) 105 Metal Ore Tiles! 41 new desert cliff tiles! 141 New Wooden Building Pieces! 12 Desert Ground Tiles, 9 Giant Monster Skulls, and 88 Sandstone Building Pieces! 128 new Fieldstone and Wood building pieces and floors! 104 New Tile Objects including modular rug pieces, counters/tables, bookshelves, books, and more! 83 Wood and Plaster building pieces completed! Over 40 new Blacksmithy objects finished with more to come! The forges are animated as well. 85 new building tiles for Fieldstone buildings! 150 New Tiles - alchemy flasks and potions, astronomy objects, new food items, additional furniture, paintings, and more! Also released are animated light candelabras and wall sconces as well as several varieties of animated potions, both bubbling and glowing. Railings and bannisters, modular shadows, and more! Over 130 snow-related tiles finished, including cabin tiles! 256 new objects to fill your maps, primarily centered around armories and kitchens, but also includes a bunch of furniture, beds, tables, etc. Roof tiles! Working in conjunction with the walls and floors and all those tiles, the roof tiles will allow you to complete the exteriors of your buildings. Additional pieces for the stone building set plus some fixes to existing pieces. Modular river bank pieces. Moss and grass covered cliff tiles. Wood Building tiles and more Nature tiles and decals. Stone Building, Interiors, and Nature tiles and decals, the first batch. Spoiler: More Character Pieces Images Inside! The Assassin The Necromancer The Witch The Daemon Knight The Valkyrie New Mythos Lady Character Pieces! First Male Commoner Character Pieces! Female version of the Knight character pieces! Female version of the Mage character pieces! Male version of the Musketeer character pieces! Female Archer character pieces! Footman character pieces! A Game of Thrones inspired base - though I thought he kind of looked like Dr Manhattan from Watchmen as well. New character pieces for the Female Battleguard class Upon request, a nurse in the Mythos style! Skål! A Shieldmaiden for the frozen lands! Male Detective (Mythos) Female Bard Female Cleric Male Berserker Male Battleguard Male Knight Female Musketeer Male Mage Spoiler: Monsters inside! Be careful! All monsters have 400 frames of animation and a high-resolution, large static image. Spoiler: Monsters inside! Be careful! The Carnivorous Plant Uruk Crusher The Weretiger The Air Giant Troll Uruk Soldier The Hell Warden Skeletal Shambler! Undead Dragon Wyvern Dire Wolf Red Dragon Peeker The Apex Hunter The Apex Predator The Apex Stalker Daemon Hound Overview: This new set of graphics is focused around offering resources that allow for greater visual depth and detail than what can usually be found. A great deal of emphasis is placed on modularity to allow for maximum flexibility and creativity, both for the tiles themselves as well as for the characters. The majority of these resource are hand-drawn, with some being rendered from 3D models (the characters primarily, and a handful of the objects). What are these?! 2.5D is a very general term used to describe a 2D perspective that represents a 3D projection or space. This is NOT 3D, it is merely a 2D perspective (in fact, you can't actually recreate this perspective in 3D at all!). In this specific case, the perspective is at a 45 degree rotation. 2.5D graphics are wonderful because they can add much-needed depth and dimension to your game maps. How do you use them? These tiles were designed to be used a lot like Lego building blocks. They are modular in nature and will snap together easily on a 32x32 grid in spite of the fact that they are larger than 32x32 pixels. Due to their basic structure and modularity, this allows you to make an infinite number of structures, rooms, etc. Decals! While these tiles will snap together on 32x32 pixel grid, these resources also include "decals" which are tiles with blended and faded edges. This allows them to be placed almost anywhere and they will fit in. These are fantastic for covering seams, breaking up patterns, or just adding variety! Their uses are virtually endless. Build Your Own Characters In keeping with the concept of modularity, this new generation of character building resources includes TONS of customization of your characters. A variety of base templates can be freely mixed and matched with different outfit pieces such as tops, bottoms, hats, shields, weapons, helmets, hair, facial hair, etc. Each piece of equipment, clothing, hair, etc supports over 70(!!!) animations, all of which are in 8 directional facings. On top of that, there are 24 high-resolution face expressions, 24 high-resolution bust images, and 24 high-resolution paperdoll figures. Each of the 24 showcase different emotions and poses. Speaking of Animations... As of right now there are over 70 animations, each one a…

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ekhartpl

#21 May 7, 2019, 12:14 PM Source

Jesse - PVGames said:
you can set your tile grid to 32x32 in MV (though I don't know if this affects the editor, never really messed with that).

I'm using 32x grid in my MV project, so I can chime in on that. You pretty much need two sets of tilesets (and parallaxes) set in '\parallaxes', '\parallaxes_small', '\tilesets', '\tilesets_small' folders. Regular Tilesets/Parallaxes folder has them with 48x48 grid (that you use while mapping), but then the game uses stuff from '\..._small' folders.
Jesse - PVGames

#22 May 7, 2019, 12:19 PM Source

Preview of the roof tiles, coming up soon. These modular pieces work in conjunction with the walls, floors, and other similar tiles to complete the exterior of your buildings. (Side note, a lot of the seams seen here have since been fixed).

@ekhartpl - So if I am understanding correctly, you would just need to put placeholders in the "regular" folders and then put the actual sized pieces in the "small" folder? Sounds pretty simple. I imagine you can remove all of the files from the "regular" folder when you export so they don't add additional file size bloat?
ekhartpl

#23 May 7, 2019, 10:14 PM Source

Jesse - PVGames said:
So if I am understanding correctly, you would just need to put placeholders in the "regular" folders and then put the actual sized pieces in the "small" folder? Sounds pretty simple. I imagine you can remove all of the files from the "regular" folder when you export so they don't add additional file size bloat?

I think you can, it shouldn't give out any errors, but (just to make sure) I'll probably resize them to 1x1px size and keep them, just in case. Still that's only a couple hundred kb max added.
Jesse - PVGames

#24 May 9, 2019, 05:02 PM Source

The first monster is made and available. This is a redone version of an unreleased monster from the scrapped Infernus pack (all of which will be folded into this new series of resources).

There are 400 frames of animation for walking, running, various attacks, idles, evading, getting hit, critical health, and much more, including tail wagging (who's a happy demon puppy?!) - Also available is the high resolution image of the above creatures with transparent background.
Jesse - PVGames

#25 May 10, 2019, 04:19 PM Source

This weekend will see the release of a lot of resources! New trees and ivy, 256 objects ranging from standing armor and archery targets to chairs and beds and tables and much more. More character pieces also coming this weekend!
The Stranger

#26 May 10, 2019, 10:47 PM Source

Why do those walls look so blurry?
Jesse - PVGames

#27 May 11, 2019, 12:45 AM Source

The whole image came out kind of blurry actually, perhaps from some of the overlays I threw in, or image compression (it's a jpg after all), or both.
Richard John S

#28 May 11, 2019, 02:01 PM Source

Ultima Online, that's exactly what it looks like! Great work!
BloodletterQ

#29 May 11, 2019, 03:59 PM Source

May have been answered already, but we do get the option for the default, non-isometric perspective? I find features regarding NPC movements haven't really been made for 8-way movement.
mathmaster74

#30 May 11, 2019, 04:48 PM Source

@BloodletterQ The Medieval packs I have include both isometric and non for all the buildings, castle components, and such. Essentially more or less every item has 8 different views from straight-on, 1/4 turn clockwise, left-facing, 3/4 clockwise, etc. going around...unless it's symmetrical. Since this is a 2.5D thread, I'm guessing that's why you don't see the 2D getting much love here...but it's available. :LZSsmile:
toasttoasttoast

#31 May 12, 2019, 02:16 AM Source

Does anyone know what I need to set the tile size to in Tiled for use with these? 32x32 almost works but I can't get portions of certain tiles to line up with one another:

Clearly not what I need lol. At 16x16 they work but the image exports are absolutely puny. I was planning to essentially export images of my custom buildings for quick use in GIMP where I do all the nature and geography mapping, instead of trying to build them piece by piece in GIMP itself. I made tilesets as a series of images in the editor rather than a tile sheet, especially since their sizes vary.

EDIT:The image was only tiny because I had accidentally exported it with "use current zoom level" set on while I was zoomed out. So 16x16 works, but it won't let me draw a series of the same image in a line because it overlaps a ton of them due to the size I set.
Zyphli

#32 May 12, 2019, 03:46 AM Source

I just downloaded Tiled to look, and it looks to me like you should be able to use the grid at 32. If your issue was with the back corner having the gap, you have to use the narrow post in that corner.
toasttoasttoast

#33 May 12, 2019, 03:47 AM Source

That narrow post throws it off though in comparison to making bottom corners, at least aesthetically. Oh well, I made a cool thing and just used 16x16 instead. Took a bit more individual clicking but no big deal.

The idea is to build the structure and separately export sections of walls, floors, etc as their own images. If I set it up correctly in-game, I can show the player behind the walls by making that layer transparent when they walk behind them. But this also makes building them a breeze because I don't have to deal with rearranging layers in GIMP

This was just an initial test but it only took a few minutes.

There is still a matter of some pieces simply not working in positions that they work in at 32x32 in GIMP
Zyphli

#34 May 12, 2019, 04:24 AM Source

I haven't been able to see the issue with the bottom corners, but glad you found something that is working for you.
I'm glad your question pointed me to trying Tiled though - I had been building my buildings in Gimp directly, which has been tedious .

I've mostly been working today on making the buildings playable.

Spoiler
With the farmhouse I have been playing with, stepping in/out of the house hides/removes the roof by changing the overlay layer and making the front walls above the character instead of behind them (using Galv's Layers Plugin). Then I have to change overlays again when moving in/out of the smaller back room to keep the doorway walls above/behind the character correctly.
toasttoasttoast

#35 May 13, 2019, 12:18 PM Source

So TileD is nice but when I went to build the interior I realized that to draw tiles on the inside that sit behind the exterior walls, you have to place each section of exterior walls on their own layers(North, South, East, West) so that walls placed on the interior aren't drawn on top of the outside walls. I didn't plan on that in advance since I have never used the program before(Maybe layer groups will solve this I haven't tried yet). I did just the outside, remaking a building from an Ultima Online private shard I play on just for fun! It isn't totally spot on but I think I did pretty well https://uooutlands.com/wiki/Lightstone_Fortress
Jesse - PVGames

#36 May 13, 2019, 03:15 PM Source

I’m still out of state for another day but when I get back I will endeavor to make a guide or something to better instruct how to use them, though it seems like you guys are quickly getting the hang of them! Making some nice looking buildings

I will also be editing the main topic a little to be in better compliance with mod requests as well.
toasttoasttoast

#37 May 13, 2019, 03:19 PM Source

Taking a second crack at the inside. I might be able to make it work. It's just going to take some messing about

@Jesse - PVGames A guide would be especially helpful. I don't know how you make your buildings so fast and efficiently but it takes me forever in GIMP, since layer orders and such are a nuisance, and my 32x32 grid snap is probably wrong because they don't snap into place without some tweaking. Roofs on complex buildings are also difficult at the moment
BloodletterQ

#38 May 17, 2019, 04:47 PM Source

As much as I look forward to you building upon these graphics, my only disappointment lies not with you, but with how there doesn’t seem to be a way to make random movement in the diagonal directions.
Jesse - PVGames

#39 May 17, 2019, 10:23 PM Source

Over 130 snow-related tiles finished up, including cabin and cabin roof pieces! Snowy cliffs, trees, snow banks, and more.

I am going to be writing up a document that outlines what all of the animations are for the characters and their respective frame ranges and all that. That info will be used with the software, but people can use it for reference as well. I need to get on making some guides, too. I am thinking next week I will focus a bit more on that.

@BloodletterQ - I know what you mean. Though, that is probably a reasonably low hurdle to overcome via plugin, all things considered. Might even be able to do it with eventing since you can move events diagonally that way, just need to come up with a way to somehow randomize it (maybe make a number of possible move routes and have the event randomly select one at time?)
mathmaster74

#40 May 17, 2019, 10:54 PM Source

@BloodletterQ @Jesse - PVGames You mean like this?

Visual

Using this?

Code
◆Label：NextMove
◆Control Variables：#0180 Random = Random 1..9
◆If：Random = 1
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Lower Left
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 2
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Down
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 3
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Lower Right
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 4
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Left
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 6
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Right
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 7
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Upper Left
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 8
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Up
◆
：End
◆If：Random = 9
◆Set Movement Route：This Event (Wait)
：：◇Move Upper Right
◆
：End
◆Jump to Label：NextMove

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