Announcement - [NEW ALERT!] Resource Blacklist - The resources you should definitly not use

Avery · 2015-02-09T08:39:20+0900

I have made this list a while ago on a German forum, but I thought it would be useful to have it here as well. If there's any problem with it, please tell me. I don't want any discussion about using Rips the chance of getting punished for using stolen stuff, this is just to give you the information, so noone can say "I didn't know about this". You can suggest other stuff to add, but please include links to the original sources or screens of the game where the things are ripped off. 1. The Avadan Ship This is maybe one of the most famoust ships for RM VX and Ace - and sadly nearly as famous for including ripped parts. Archeia detected this here, but there are still many people using it, some don't know about this fact, some just don't care. Spoiler Spoiler Original: The Ship by Avadan (one of it's many versions, this is just for showing, DO NOT USE THIS!) What you could use instead: Spoiler Spoiler I am working on a ship tileset, there is a full functional base yet: Avery's Ship Celianna has an awesome one. Schnecke/Snail made another one. And there is this Edit of the XP-Ship; you would need to owm RMXP to be allowed to use it (and to ask someone to translate the japanese terms). 2. The "Big Icon Set" One of the most aweful violations of the terms I ever saw (and a very successful, too -_-) Here we have: stolen stuff of various RPG-Artists who's terms also tell people not to repost (without any credits, of course) and also ripped stuff. If no credits and the many different styled weren't enough hints, here is a clear: delete it! Spoiler Spoiler Some of the original sources: http://ccw.blog.shinobi.jp/アイコン素材/ http://whitecafe.sakura.ne.jp/material.html And games where the rips come from: Ragnarok Online Fire Emblem Alternative stuff Spoiler Spoiler Yeah, I know, it is a lot more work than just pasting a large sheet, but: http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/topic/27484-grannys-lists-balloons-and-icons/ includes nearly all legal sources for icons, and with slimmeiske's great list you have also easy access to the terms of the Japanese artists. 3. Nightfox' stuff Nightfox was a German ...artist back then. In fact, he stole parts of the work of other people and used rips. He never made clear what he got where, so just don't use anything that can be found in his thread. Spoiler Spoiler The graphics are left inside the thread so people can go and check what NOT to use. Nightfox' Ressourcen 4. VXresourceplanet A large resource Site... well, they just mostly "forget" to mention, who made the stuff what is posted there. Random things from around the web, violating the terms of different artists and nearly no credits, great. Spoiler Spoiler VXresourceplanet DO NOT USE THE THINGS FOUND THERE! Example for stolen stuff: this post and this one Original source is Vibrato, the stuff can be found in this huge Pack by him you can download on this site. There are no credits given, even though it is against his terms, translated here. 5. Some statues There are also some Terranigma statues which are mostly used in some XP-Projects Spoiler Spoiler 6. Zanyzora/Teamanti See the Terranigma statues above? Zanyzora/Teamanti posted them, just for example. This was a site with a lot of cool XP-Edits... mixed up with rips. Since the site went offline, the stuff is spread all over the web and it's nearly impossible to say where it can be found. But since Zanyzora mostly forgot to tell us about used rips, don't use anything with this name in the credits without beeing very sure that only XP-tiles were the base for that (she had some autotiles for example that can be used without any issues). An example (thanks to PandaMaru for finding the original sources!): Spoiler Spoiler Golden Axe Screen (the throne in the BG): Suikoden II Screen (the pines): Castlevania: Set with the rips: Second Example: Spoiler Spoiler Illusion of time screen: Set with rips: Third example Spoiler Spoiler Original source: http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/thenewpage/levels.html Ripped set: and another one Spoiler Spoiler Original source: e.g.: http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.php?db_content=gameitem&id=2405&cat=851 7. Ragnarok Whenever you read Ragnarok or Ragnarok online anywhere in the credits, be suspicious! This is an online game and guess what - those graphics are not free to use! The game has a very own graphic style and the rips are mostly labeled as battlers, chars or sometimes there are also icons Art examples: Spoiler Spoiler http://rns.gamona.de/index.php?show=monster_re&act=search&key=Desert+Wolf 8. BenBen/Kaliban and Hanzo Kimura The BenBen Tiles were released after the game was cancelled and they are very popular. Sadly they contain Rips and they should not be used! Spoiler Spoiler Example for ripped stuff in the BenBen-Tiles: Ridley (Metroid): Example for stolen stuff in the BenBen-Tiles: Terms of Studio Pickle (no repost): http://www008.upp.so-net.ne.jp/newiceax/framepage1.htm charsets: http://www008.upp.so-net.ne.jp/newiceax/framepage1.htm (parts…

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Avery

#121 Jan 9, 2016, 05:58 AM Source

Well, I can only tell you what I know:

Proove me wrong, but what I know is:

-there is no full credit list anywhere

-the tilesets contain stuff by various artists of them - for example studio pickle - some don't want their stuff to be reposted

-there are few tiles that can be identified as rips and some that _could_ be Rips.

Here are some examples (shrunk down to be unusable but I hope everything is still good to identify):

A Credit list would at least contain: Euphony, The Half Kaizer Team, Studio Picke/Ice Axe, maybe ccoa (I am not sure, would have to double check), Mack, XP RTP, Ace RTP, Tana, BenBen, but!

There are definitly Rips in there.

There are several tiles that can't be identified, so there could else be a lot more names to be added to the credit list or tiles you shouldn't use because they are rips, but we can't know. I think a lot of the temple tiles and many more are by BenBen, but that doesn't make the tiles safe^^;

So far, this is nothing official, I just felt that there was a need for an information point and I do my best in research and sharing the informations I can get my hands on^^; I don't contact the people, I just made a place where you can look up what you definitly should avoid if you want to be sure :)
Andar

#122 Jan 9, 2016, 09:47 AM Source

Euphony said:
I've seen commercial games from Aldorlea using tiles from that huge BenBen tileset
But are they from that tileset?
As Avery said above, the biggest problem of the BenBen tilesets is that they are mixed together and contain reposts, edits and rips without credits.

So it could very well be that Aldorlea had the tiles from the original source legally and the same tiles were also reposted in BenBens where no one knows where any parts come from.
Euphony

#123 Jan 9, 2016, 04:51 PM Source

The tileset certainly belongs on the blacklist, I'm not questioning that. I mean, it's obvious from the crazy mix of styles alone that it's not a trustworthy resource. I guess I'm just particularly curious about stuff like the trees (the ones next to the Neophyte rip, for example) and the castle/cathedral tiles (parts of them can be seen next to the Metroid rip)...they seem like they could be original or like they could be rips.

Andar said:
So it could very well be that Aldorlea had the tiles from the original source legally and the same tiles were also reposted in BenBens where no one knows where any parts come from.
Definitely possible! And if that's the case, couldn't they share that information with us? There are Aldorlea devs on the forum IIRC. It would be nice if they could provide more info on these mystery tiles.
Ronove

#124 Jan 9, 2016, 05:20 PM Source

Not to mention those recolored couches next to the metroid rip are from White Ties (or whatever it's real name is--the one pretty Japanese XP sample game) which if I recall, they don't want people using their stuff in commercial games (not entirely sure but pretty sure it was said somewhere a long time ago). That also goes for some of the designs on the beds--they are also from White Ties though also mixed with XP's RTP for the bed frame. Those benches that you're not sure where they are from are ALSO from White Ties.
XPKobold

#125 Jan 10, 2016, 07:08 PM Source

Chill Pingu said:
is this iconset reliable? There are some icons i would like to use in my project.

http://www.gdunlimited.net/forums/uploads//gallery_21416_135_418145.png
Actually no considering i recognized a lot of rips in that big iconset Ragnarok icons, Lunar Silver Star Story/Eternal Blue icons. Namely the special skill icons as well as a few of the sword icons are very recognizable considering the master sword and althena sword.

It's safe to say not to rely on any of the big icon sets considering the mix of various rips.
XIIIthHarbinger

#126 Jan 24, 2016, 12:48 AM Source

Annoying,

I recognize the icon set as a smaller subset of a set of icons I had been working with along with a couple of other items, as I am not very partial to MV's default icon set. While I don't recall the site I acquired it from, I distinctly recall the person who posted it saying something akin to "Feel free to use it in whatever project you like...".

Still, thank you for posting this. (tip of the hat)
Shuya

#127 Feb 15, 2016, 01:49 PM Source

Hmm... two qustion... whether is break the law if i use for non commercial game?

How about if i create other character by my own mod?

Example, i create Lighting Mod from Final Fantasy 13 and put it on my non comercial game RPG Makker still that break the law?
bgillisp

#128 Feb 15, 2016, 01:54 PM Source

Shuya said:
Hmm... two qustion... whether is break the law if i use for non commercial game?

How about if i create other character by my own mod?

Example, i create Lighting Mod from Final Fantasy 13 and put it on my non comercial game RPG Makker still that break the law?

Yes, yes, and yes. It is still copywrite infringement if you do it, all being non-commiercial does is (possibly) reduce the fine and penalties you will pay if the company takes you to court.
Shuya

#129 Feb 15, 2016, 02:06 PM Source

bgillisp said:
Yes, yes, and yes. It is still copywrite infringement if you do it, all being non-commiercial does is (possibly) reduce the fine and penalties you will pay if the company takes you to court.

I see... thank's for your information. :D i will more carefull.

But i found strange case! From Vash Maker, he said the sprites is free for use, and there is a sprites from Marvel character, like Captain America, Iron Man and Wolverine. in this case he still copywrite infringement or not?
Andar

#130 Feb 15, 2016, 02:49 PM Source

Shuya said:
I see... thank's for your information. :D i will more carefull.

But i found strange case! From Vash Maker, he said the sprites is free for use, and there is a sprites from Marvel character, like Captain America, Iron Man and Wolverine. in this case he still copywrite infringement or not?

Yes and no - it depends on how you use them. The key here is not copyright infringment but trademark infringment - those are two different things that are often called "copyright" together, but the laws of them are extremely different.

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If he made the sprites himself then Vash has the copyright on that work, but he doesn't have the right to use the trademark (name) of those characters.

So those sprites can be used if they're named "the blue captain" or "golden golem" in the games - but as soon as they're named "captain america" or "iron man" (which he carefully did not in the topic), then it would be trademark infringment and illegal.
Shuya

#131 Feb 15, 2016, 03:11 PM Source

Andar said:
Yes and no - it depends on how you use them. The key here is not copyright infringment but trademark infringment - those are two different things that are often called "copyright" together, but the laws of them are extremely different.

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If he made the sprites himself then Vash has the copyright on that work, but he doesn't have the right to use the trademark (name) of those characters.

So those sprites can be used if they're named "the blue captain" or "golden golem" in the games - but as soon as they're named "captain america" or "iron man" (which he carefully did not in the topic), then it would be trademark infringment and illegal.

So you mean is no problem even so the character is very much like with the other character as long i named it with different name?

Example i create Lighting mod that simmilar with the Lighting from final fantasy 13 but i named with Resa.

Its no problem?
Andar

#132 Feb 15, 2016, 04:58 PM Source

Shuya said:
So you mean is no problem even so the character is very much like with the other character as long i named it with different name?

Please search for the discussions on copyright in the commercial area, this goes too far off-topic for here. And it has been explained there multiple times
Jefries

#133 Mar 16, 2016, 01:41 AM Source

I used the big Iconset for VX Ace, and I got it in VXResourceplanet and got many other things from. Anyways, the mac sprites that I got I know I can find it in one of GrandmaDeb's threads I just have to credit the one that Grandma mentions there. As for the big icon set I really want to use it since it has many icons already, but need to follow the rules....
XPKobold

#134 Jun 3, 2016, 05:11 PM Source

Actually while we are on this subject considering since rpg maker 2000/2003 are on steam and the rpgmakerweb this is a very good question. While i use the default rtp with to make maps. Are there any other official rtp sets from the 2000/2003 that were released by kadokawa/enterbrain that are actually safe and legal to use?
_Shadow_

#135 Jun 22, 2016, 11:57 AM Source

@Celianna @Avery

It would be nice to add to the OP, a link to this thread, so we can keep track of such people just looking into a certain thread. What do you think?

Just a suggestion.
F117Landers

#136 Jul 4, 2016, 04:06 PM Source

Avery / Mods,

I wrote up a guide to IP over on Reddit (link). Would this be useful for this thread as well?
Marquise*

#137 Jul 20, 2016, 07:42 PM Source

I found

All RMXP RTP Chars for Ace

in a Steam workshop and was wondering if this should be blacklisted as the users of RPGMaker Ace or any other RPGMaker than XP don't have necessarily XP?

It is in public use for Vx Ace users;

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=311998305

I kinda asked him and he sent me to the RPGMaker VX Ace EULA.... Which is not the EULA of XP and I can't tell if XP states that you can use all the RTPs in any versions of the makers!

So that's why I am asking and/or reporting this :p
mlogan

#138 Jul 20, 2016, 07:52 PM Source

I'm not sure it needs to be blacklisted. The XP RTP is freely available for anyone to download and use and edit in this manner. Whether they get it there or the official download, the would still need to own XP, and unless they are caught somehow, there really is no way to stop people from using it illegally. I added a comment on the Steam page noting that they would need to own both. I think the poster understands that, but, because of language barriers, has not explained it well.
mlogan

#139 Sep 9, 2016, 04:17 PM Source

@Avery Can you add Ayaveen's dragon sprites to this list? According to Ayaveen, these were made as edits a long time ago and they have lost the full credit list. Though non-commercial use is probably okay, they can't guarantee commercial use. However, it really shouldn't be used non-commercially either since credits are incomplete. Ayaveen is working on creating a replacement from scratch. I will link it here once it is done.

UPDATE: Ayaveen has supplied this dragon to use in place.

Ayaveen's old dragons (DO NOT USe0:

@GrandmaDeb I'm tagging you in this, because when I searched for sources of it, your blog was the only one I could find anymore, so I thought you would want to know.
Hazeliper

#140 Sep 11, 2016, 05:49 PM Source

Greetings everyone!

I'm sorry about butting in to this conversation. I wanted to add some additional notes for the dragon sprites above. Also thank you for your great help mlogan with this issue. Poor you had to endure all my spam :D

As mlogan said this dragon was deleted long ago, and was not even an original work, but an edit created by sources offered by the community.
After seeing it again on these forums, I wanted to warn everyone about the circumstances of these pictures, and also decided to find the sprites that were probably used in its creation. I even received some questions from time to time, but I want to apologize if I was vague or not clear about the circumstances of this image, because I see this thing with all kind of various license information. So I want to clear things up this time.

This sprite should not be used at all, not even in free projects. Why? I made some research a few days ago and found images that were probably used. I've contacted various artists behind them and later I've learned that the sprites weren't actually original works, they were edits and recolors from the RTP (XP) itself. So they certainly should not have been used in this manner. I guess I've learned it the hard way to not trust sources when it comes to sprites on the internet. :(

I'm very ashamed about this, should have made a proper search to verify information back then. That's why I've tried to redraw those dragons, but please make sure you read their information at the deviation and use only the latest version. I've tried to make it somewhat unique, but its still inspired from the original RTP (XP) sources.