Tileset - Vocabulary question for camp.

Okay, we all know what tilesets are, right?


And tiles.


We talk about them all the time.


Well, try to imagine teaching a camp full of summer-brained kids and you realize you have to be pretty doggone clear about things.


So I ask, is a tileset the full set you associate with a map, or is it any of the tile files you use in your game?


Is this a tileset - all six files?


Dungeon_A1


Dungeon_A2


Dungeon_A4


Dungeon_A5


Dungeon_B


Dungeon_C


So, like, you cannot say Dungeon_C is a tileset by itself?


But we do all the time. We post a 512 by 512 image and call it a tileset.


But there is no good in-between word. We have "tile" for one tile. We have "tileset" for the whole deal. But what do we have for one file?(I am obsessing. I can do that in General Discussion, right?)


The help file just calls files like Inside_B "Sets," and the subdivisions of A tiles are called "groups." But it is really awkward to say "I have a tileset for my dungeon made up of three sets. I only have four groups in my Set A, and a Set B and Set C."


Bleh. I crave clarity.

You're teaching a summer class about RM?????

You could call it tile sheet. :)

Edit: In case that wasn't clear... I think it's a good idea to have specific names for different groups.

Single file = tile sheet

Multiple files or groups or sections = tile set

Complete set of tiles = tile pack

(for example)

Yeah, sheet makes more sense. I usually use tile set for the whole thing.

maybe you could call the tileset images "Tileset Sheet"

when they are combined for use in a map, then they'd be a "Map's Tileset"

when they are all the tilesets used for the entire game, the Game's Tilesets?

Not really sure, but Tileset Sheet would fall in line with the other lingo for like character sheets. And depending on how you name your tileset "sets" in the Tileset Tab of the database.. if you go with themes, you could call them by that. Like "Interiror Tilesets" or if you did a dark forest themed tileset, could call it a Dark Forest Tileset. I think Map's Tileset would work as a generalization since it's the set of tilesets used to create a given map.

I'm with Luna - a single image of tiles is a sheet. A collection of sheets is a tileset.

I consider a tileset to be something in each of the A tiles, as well as 1-2 sheets of other stuff. I think what constitutes a "full" set just really depends on the needs.

I usually call the entire set used on one map the Tileset. To me, tile sheet would mean the individual sheets with the tiles on them, e.g. dungeon_A1 tile sheet, dungeon_A2 tile sheet, etc.

If we're going by RM database lingo, a tileset is a compilation of tilesheets and a tilesheet is a compilation of tiles.

So Dungeon A- Dungeon E would be a Tileset.

Okay, I'm happy. I had actually planned to propose a few suggestions for a word for the single files, and one of the ideas was "tilesheet" so I don't feel like a complete and total idiot here. =D


Plus, I'm all happy and warm inside now.     . :wub:  

Tiles, Tile Sheets, and Tile Sets. And for the really complete packages, Tile Packs.

All future list edits will reflect my clearer vocabulary.

You guys are great to indulge me like this!  :blush:  
 

I also call the individual images a tilesheet.


A tileset in the database is the group of A1-A5 and B-E files combined, along with all the passage, bush, terrain, ladder, etc settings. That's what I refer to when I use the term tileset.

Where have I been while you guys all had this great terminology???


Lol, at least I can finish writing/editing my campers' documents with confidence. Hah!

You probably had your head stuck in a list somewhere, I've no doubt ;)

Dang, everybody beat me to the punch but great minds and all.

So yes, I was going to suggest the same about Tile Sheets:

• Tiles = Individual Tiles
• Tile Sheets = Individual sheets of tiles
• Tile Set = A full or at least semi-full set of tiles (probably containing at minimum 2 Tile Sheets?)
• Tile Pack = A mixture of Tile Sets (example: Dungeon_A1, Dungeon_B, Dungeon_C; Exterior_A1, Exterior_B, Exterior_C).

I admit, calling it by sheets makes it a bit easier explaining the limitations, since I think some people get confused when they hear "unlimited tilesets" and thinks that means "unlimited tiles".

You can have up to 5 Tiles Sheets per map to make a single Tileset (with one of those sheets consisting of auto tiles), but each map can have its own Tile Set. Clear, concise, leaves little room for confusion.

I agree that you kind of have to give the term "Tileset" to a set of matching, but not comprehensive set of tile sheets. After all, the RTP doesn't supply a complete dungeon set with all A-E files, but you really do think if the dungeon tiles together as a tileset.


Of course, they are ready to stick in your database together and make a map. But it is true that really small groups of coordinated tile sheets might seem like pretty pansy Tilesets, but if you can map withj the set, floor to walls, then istm you can cheat a little and call it a tileset.


For Example, it would be fair to say it is not a Tile Pack in those six RTP dungeon files, but since they are coordinated and all, they seem to deserve "tileset."


But I don't care, whatever folks think.


You have to go to ***cough, cough** incredible resource contributors ***cough,cough*** to get Tile Packs. =D


Unless you wanted to call the RTP a TilePack, which seems silly, since it is the RTP.

How true.  How very true.