Request Simple Visual Novel / Galge Character Bust for Yanfly Message Core

Gabihime · 2015-10-23T23:48:39+0900

I'm sure more people than me are interested in this for MV. In VX Ace I was using a script that Saba Kahn wrote but it didn't work with Yanfly's YEA Message system, so that was a bummer. For people who aren't familiar with this kind of storytelling, or who maybe just don't recognize it, you can see an example of it here: Ateleier Rorona Cutscenes, Disgaea Cutscenes Here are the details. Visual novel style display of 2/3 body sprites in three positions on the screen: left, center, and right. These should be on a layer below the message box and name box. Positions should be defined in percentages, preferably, to make it flexible with different resolutions. Optional background layer behind the character images. Simple dissolve effect for the appearance / disappearance of characters. Ability to display up to three images at once, one in each of the three positions. That means a maximum of three characters on the screen at once. Persistence of images until they are cleared or replaced. For instance: two characters in positions L and R are having a conversation. L and R speak alternately, but their images remain in their positions until the conversation is over. When L is speaking, R is still visible. Having the characters pop up and down as they alternate speaking is very choppy and doesn't lead to good storytelling. It's easiest to simply have a function to clear the screen when the scene is over. A naming convention that makes it easy to group certain sprites together, to represent different emotions or states, like Actor_1_1, Actor_1_2, etc. Optional, but fun, is popping emote bubbles above the heads of the sprites, at some specifically defined location. Shin Totomono does this in its cutscenes. Simple integration into the MV messaging system. I know all of this can be done with show images, but it would save a lot of time and pain if I could just pop in a line to start this kind of conversation event, and easily control the images as I wrote the dialogue. Compatible with YEP Message Core Animation / mouthflaps / whatever is definitely not needed. Just the swapping out of flat, still images. I've included some cheap-as-free screenshots below to show what I mean for people not familiar with what I'm talking about. I do still want to use the basic message system as well, for most other interactions that are not story events.

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Started by Gabihime Oct 23, 2015, 02:48 PM 32 posts Page 2 of 2 View original ↗

Tsukihime

#21 Dec 20, 2015, 09:37 PM Source

Kloe said:
Hime has hinted at making one as seen HERE!
Unfortunately, I won't be building it as an add-on for yanfly's message system, so my plugins won't be able to fulfill the request's requirements.
Ghost of Christmas Kloe

#22 Dec 20, 2015, 09:53 PM Source

Tsukihime said:
Unfortunately, I won't be building it as an add-on for Yanfly's message system, so my plugins won't be able to fulfill the request's requirements.
Oh, ok, well, I mean its still an option if Gabihime is willing to compromise on the request's requirements.
Tsukihime

#23 Dec 20, 2015, 11:33 PM Source

Kloe said:
Oh, ok, well, I mean its still an option if Gabihime is willing to compromise on the request's requirements.
I just tested my plugin with yanfly's message core, and it displays the messages fine.

I guess it is compatible then lol
Gabihime

#24 Dec 20, 2015, 11:48 PM Source

That's great! I'm very excited about it :3

I always love your work anyway, Tsukihime. It's always awesome when stuff works together, whether it's intended to or not.
Tsukihime

#25 Dec 20, 2015, 11:56 PM Source

For the message pictures, I'm planning to just use the regular event "show picture" function. So you can display however many pictures you want and control where and how they appear/disappear, whether they're highlighted or darkened, etc.

Which is already possible even without any plugins. Take a look at this vine: https://vine.co/v/imjadPIxlbP

It's a lot of work though to maintain.

Ideally there should be an easier way to manage the visuals, but it shouldn't be completely up to the plugin to handle it.

One idea was to set the "active" picture that's currently "speaking".

So you might say "active" pictures have normal tinting, while "inactive" pictures have darker tints.

You would then use plugin commands in your event to designate who is currently "speaking", and the game would handle what happens afterwards, like perhaps animated faces for the speaker.

And for any other functionality that the plugin doesn't cover, you would just use regular events.
Nuxill

#26 Dec 26, 2015, 04:35 AM Source

I've been doing something similar to the vine Hime posted, and it is a tiny bit easier if you use variables and an event on every map that keeps track of what picture to have 'highlighted' depending on the variable.

I think I could probably make it work with a common event, but last time i tried it didn't work and I didn't bother to try and find out why it wasn't working since it was just fine as a copy paste event.

Having it all handled by a plugin would be so much less upkeep though, and if you decide to actually make something like this into one Hime (that also includes the ability to fade characters/pictures in and out) I'd be forever in your debt. :guffaw:
kannazuki-ko

#27 Apr 10, 2016, 12:48 AM Source

I’m sorry to bump this topic after so long, but I have to ask: Hime, are you still working on a plugin like this?

I really think this plugin (or one like it) would be a boon to the development of visual novels in MV as it allows the creator to focus on things other than balancing hundreds of identical looking ’show picture’ commands for every line.
Parallax Panda

#28 Apr 12, 2016, 07:01 AM Source

Might as well voice my own oppinion here as well. I would VERY much like for this plugin to be made! Making a visual novel hybrid in MV is an appealing thought. :D
DreamX

#29 Apr 17, 2016, 05:52 PM Source

Since I'm interested in visual novel type games in MV, I'd be willing to do something like this if @Tsukihime isn't still working on it.
Tsukihime

#30 Apr 18, 2016, 02:25 AM Source

DreamX said:
Since I'm interested in visual novel type games in MV, I'd be willing to do something like this if @Tsukihime isn't still working on it.

Feel free. I haven't really written anything that I personally felt was usable in large scale and therefore didn't release anything.
Rhino

#31 Feb 28, 2017, 01:42 PM Source

Hello! Sorry if this counts as necroposting or something, but are there any updates on this topic? I'd really like a system like Gabihime requested! Mostly I'm just looking for an easy way to have two characters on screen without having to go through the show picture/manually set location route (having an easy left/right/centre anchor basically!) But having animated mouth flaps/blinking would also be so cool! I know Soul777 make an animated bust plugin but I think it only works on faces/busts rather than imported pictures...
Kes

#32 Feb 28, 2017, 03:26 PM Source

@Rhino Yes, this does count as necro posting. You can see our Forum Rules here.

I suggest that you start your own thread, specifying exactly what you want.

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